Anders Andersen

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  How to disorder a JW (family) chat

  by Gorbatchov in

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  we all know the moment that a nice family chat is moving to the propaganda game.. sister in law saying that jw.org is the highest ranked website, cousing saying that the new hq is energy neutral, aunt stating that jw have the best education.... what can we say on these moments?.

  that br splane just likes these new light ideas?.

  that a jw.org video stated that jw use the name jehovah because people recognize this name?.

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  • Justice McClellan of the ARC said JW had the worst institutional response to child abuse
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  My Book With Bible Stories - 91 stories of murder and rape to be used as bedtime stories for your little children

  by Anders Andersen in

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  2. child-abuse

  "no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.

  do you have a nice book we can read?.

  as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.

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  @jwundubbed,

  I agree: those topics also often appear in fairy-tales and many Disney movies.
  But we wouldn't read our little girl those stories yet either!
  
  Nor do we allow her to see/hear the TV news - too much talk about death and violence going on there for 2 year olds.

  Children at that age need to play and have fun; they needn't be bothered with mentioning death and violence every day!
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  Miracle Wheat trial transcript

  by VM44 in

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  here is the miracle wheat trial transcript..

  miraclewheattrial.pdf

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  @shepherdless,

  Thanks for your clarification. I just read up on (some of) the differences between common and civil law. Never realized those!
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  My Book With Bible Stories - 91 stories of murder and rape to be used as bedtime stories for your little children

  by Anders Andersen in

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  2. child-abuse

  "no honey, daddy doesn't like this book.

  do you have a nice book we can read?.

  as far as i know my wife and i agree this book would be off-limits.

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  So at my parent-in-law's home my 2 year old child presented me with a 'My Book With Bible Stories'.
  

  "Will you read me this book daddy?"
  No honey, daddy doesn't like this book. Do you have a nice book we can read?

  As far as I know my wife and I agree this book would be off-limits. Apparently not.
  So I'll have to bring this topic up once again, and I did a quick check on the stories to back my argument.
  Well I knew it's a bad book, but I was surprised anyway.

  • General mention of death: 35x
  • Death penalty: 14x
  • (Attempted) Murder: 19x
  • General violence: 7x
  • Rape: 2x
  • Slavery: 1x
  • War/genocide: 12x
  • Abduction: 1x

  Total number of stories wholly inappropriate for children: 91 out of 116, or 78%
  Only 25 stories where nobody dies, is murdered, or raped.

  FYI I have been quite generous while counting: each story is only counted once. A story that contains all of violence, rape, murder and genocide is counted in only 1 category.
  The total number of occurrences of topics inappropriate for children is even higher!

  Fuck me, this book is a big no-go for my baby girl!
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  DId you ever fall asleep at the meetings, Assemblys??

  by karter in

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  if i'm tierd i fall asleep anywere so the meetings ect were no diffrent my wife would always try to wake me but im a deep sleeper.

  karter .

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  Yup. That's why I always asked for any 'priviliges' to be scheduled during the afternoon session
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  Miracle Wheat trial transcript

  by VM44 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is the miracle wheat trial transcript..

  miraclewheattrial.pdf

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  This was a Supreme Court case? Why? Did the parties not agree with lower court rulings?
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  Shocking news

  by Confusedalot in

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  i recently posted about what would happen if my mom got sick,seeing that i'm apostate.

  even today i posted on a thread about blood transfusions.. i just received a text from my brother saying that my mom is in hospital and requires a transfusion to survive....is this a coincidence?.

  am i being punished by jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...i dont know anymore what to do.... things are getting too much, guess i should not have joked so much in my posts..

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  Am I being punished by Jehovah, or is the devil out to get me...I dont know anymore what to do...

  Confirmation bias.

  • Let's see: your mom is a devout JW. You are not.
  • Your mom is in a hospital, severely ill. You're not.

  To me it looks that if anyone is being punished by God, it's your mom, not you. Maybe she's in the wrong cult religion?
  

  But more seriously: your mind has been trained to interpret everything that comes your way in JW terms. Want more examples?

  • A good JW gets a new job offer that fits his schedule. Must be Jah blessing him.
  • An inactive JW gets a new job offer that fits his schedule. Must be Satan tempting him.
  • A good JW is fired. Must be Satan out to get him.
  • An apostate is fired. Must be Jah revoking his blessing.
  • JW activity is banned. Must be Satan persecuting them.
  • JW activity is not banned. Must be Jah blessing them.

  Basically, whatever happens JW minds have been trained to interpret it according to their beliefs. Funnily, all other believers do exactly the same!

  The hospital is full of sick people. Did Jehovah make all of them sick? Or are they - and your mother - sick simply because people happen to get sick? You know the answer to that!

  Additionally, if Jehovah would be sending you messages by killing your devout mother, he'd a bigtime asshole not worthy of any worship!

  So, to comfort you, Jehovah didn't read this forum, and he is not making your mother sick to send you a message! That idea is cult indoctrination messing with your brain and emotions. And the indoctrination is working, because you're felling guilty, and your next move might be returning to the JW cult...

  Hope your mother pulls through! Big hug for you and your family!
  Stay calm and sane.
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  JW`s Lie about Christendom hiding the Name Jehovah.or its equivalent Yahweh

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovahs witnesses have been outspoken over the years/decades that christendom have been hiding or obscuring or even eliminating gods name jehovah from the general public.. how true is that statement .?.

  1. it was a catholic monk of the 13th century that first coined the name jehovah in the english language.. 2.the roman catholic douay version of the bible does have the name jehovah in it.

  about the 16th century.

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  1. JW claim 'christendom' tried to hide God's name by not using it and removing it from their bible translations.
  2. JW claim Jehovah is as good as or better than Yahweh, because it's more commonly used and known. They cite multiple bible translations that use Jehovah, and present pictures from antique literature, churches, etc to show Jehovah is the most popular of the two names.

  Anybody else see a problem reconciling these two claims?
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  "Only Witnesses demonstrate Christian Love"

  by Jules Saturn in

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  so a couple of nights ago i was speaking with a relative and we began talking about the organization.

  i had to asked her "why do you believe that this religion is the correct one?

  " they stood quiet for a second but then said that they view and feel genuine christian love, a type of love that is spoken about in the bible.

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  Most JW will give this same reason.
  Why?
  Could it be that they all concluded JW are The One True Religion based on the facts they observed?
  
  Or could it be that they all think they concluded this, after many Watchtower studies that repeated over and over again that 1) love is the singlemost important hallmark of True Religion and 2) only Watchtower followers posess this true love?

  It's also nice that whenever any other religion has some kind of quarrel among it's members, JW will conlcude it's a sign that love is lacking. Whenever JW have a quarrel, it's an opportunity to forgive and love. 'See, this is the only loving bORg!'
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  Do you feel comfortable being an apostate?

  by Chook in

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  i always found it uncomfortable to informal witness to people but trying to convince a jw to jump ship brings much more pleasure..

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  Yes, very much.

  By coincidence I noted this yesterday, when in a restaurant with my 2 year old daughter, JW wife and in-laws.
  Daughter started 'singing' Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah or whatever (thanks MIL and your effing JW videos!). I didn't care at all. When still a JW I'd be glowing red and ashamed, but not now :-)

  Same with the mandatory silent prayer of the others at my table: I didn't care at all, whereas when I was a JW I'd be trying to hide behind the candles on the table :-D

  I have nothing to be ashamed of. The JW on the other hand....